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Multi CPL going rate

Unread post by Incher » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:07 pm

Hi all,

What would a CPL flying a piston twin for a private individual be earning these days?

The pilot would be responsible for managing all aspects of the aircraft, including the paperwork and maintenance and possibly other responsibilities other than the flying.

I appreciate that this is a sensitive topic so I am just looking for ball park figures.

Thanks

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Re: Multi CPL going rate

Unread post by transitionlevel » Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:45 pm

These days, I would say as much as possible🤣😎
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Re: Multi CPL going rate

Unread post by Incher » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:39 am

transitionlevel wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:45 pm
These days, I would say as much as possible🤣😎
I would have to agree! But the feedback so far seems to go against that idea.

Anyone care to share a rough idea of the charter rate per/km piston twins these days?
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Re: Multi CPL going rate

Unread post by ppakotze » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:08 am

In these times, I would just say 'Thank you sir'.


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Re: Multi CPL going rate

Unread post by Incher » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:55 am

ppakotze wrote:
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In these times, I would just say 'Thank you sir'.


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Re: Multi CPL going rate

Unread post by RAArmstrong » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:33 pm

Incher wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:39 am
transitionlevel wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:45 pm
These days, I would say as much as possible🤣😎
I would have to agree! But the feedback so far seems to go against that idea.

Anyone care to share a rough idea of the charter rate per/km piston twins these days?
Charter wise something like a C402 is going to be sitting somewhere between R25-29/km ACMIF
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Re: Multi CPL going rate

Unread post by Lood » Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:04 pm

Incher wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:07 pm
Hi all,

What would a CPL flying a piston twin for a private individual be earning these days?

The pilot would be responsible for managing all aspects of the aircraft, including the paperwork and maintenance and possibly other responsibilities other than the flying.

I appreciate that this is a sensitive topic so I am just looking for ball park figures.

Thanks

Chris.
Get the “private individual” to employ you (I assume that you’re the pilot?) on a fixed monthly salary, regardless of the hours flown and how much and how well you manage his steed ...
This is the only way you can do your personal financial planning, except where you’re guaranteed a minimum amount of flying hours per month.
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Re: Multi CPL going rate

Unread post by transitionlevel » Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:31 am

No Incher, it was my answer to a question. Think about it. I would want to work for as much as possible. Studying all that work, sitting ground school, paying for all those hours and ratings I would def want to be paid as much as possible. Hope you find your answer. Vraag en aanbod boetie, vraag en aanbod.
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Re: Multi CPL going rate

Unread post by Incher » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:10 pm

RAArmstrong wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:33 pm
Incher wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:39 am
transitionlevel wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:45 pm
These days, I would say as much as possible🤣😎
I would have to agree! But the feedback so far seems to go against that idea.

Anyone care to share a rough idea of the charter rate per/km piston twins these days?
Charter wise something like a C402 is going to be sitting somewhere between R25-29/km ACMIF
Thank you. Would it be realistic to assume the pilot would be seeing R1-R2 of that per km rate?
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Re: Multi CPL going rate

Unread post by Incher » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:12 pm

Lood wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:04 pm
Incher wrote:
Tue Oct 13, 2020 1:07 pm
Hi all,

What would a CPL flying a piston twin for a private individual be earning these days?

The pilot would be responsible for managing all aspects of the aircraft, including the paperwork and maintenance and possibly other responsibilities other than the flying.

I appreciate that this is a sensitive topic so I am just looking for ball park figures.

Thanks

Chris.
Get the “private individual” to employ you (I assume that you’re the pilot?) on a fixed monthly salary, regardless of the hours flown and how much and how well you manage his steed ...
This is the only way you can do your personal financial planning, except where you’re guaranteed a minimum amount of flying hours per month.
That is certainly my intention. I have some figures in mind and I was hoping to get an idea how realistic they are in the current climate.
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Re: Multi CPL going rate

Unread post by Incher » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:17 pm

transitionlevel wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:31 am
No Incher, it was my answer to a question. Think about it. I would want to work for as much as possible. Studying all that work, sitting ground school, paying for all those hours and ratings I would def want to be paid as much as possible. Hope you find your answer. Vraag en aanbod boetie, vraag en aanbod.
Believe me, I am on your side with this one.

I am trying my best not to sell myself short here. This road has been too long and too tough not to try get maximum value out if it.
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Re: Multi CPL going rate

Unread post by RAArmstrong » Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:34 am

Incher wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:10 pm
RAArmstrong wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:33 pm
Incher wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 9:39 am


I would have to agree! But the feedback so far seems to go against that idea.

Anyone care to share a rough idea of the charter rate per/km piston twins these days?
Charter wise something like a C402 is going to be sitting somewhere between R25-29/km ACMIF
Thank you. Would it be realistic to assume the pilot would be seeing R1-R2 of that per km rate?
So I'm my experience R2-R2.50 is about what freelance crew are billing. Jet crew are more
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Re: Multi CPL going rate

Unread post by Incher » Mon Oct 19, 2020 12:52 pm

RAArmstrong wrote:
Mon Oct 19, 2020 8:34 am
Incher wrote:
Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:10 pm
RAArmstrong wrote:
Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:33 pm


Charter wise something like a C402 is going to be sitting somewhere between R25-29/km ACMIF
Thank you. Would it be realistic to assume the pilot would be seeing R1-R2 of that per km rate?
So I'm my experience R2-R2.50 is about what freelance crew are billing. Jet crew are more
Thank you!
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