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Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by Volo » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:51 pm

The best-kept secret is the low cost per hour

Yesterday I flew for 4 hours and my launch cost me R250-00 behind a Cessna 182 for 7 minutes.
This translates to a net operating cost of R62-50 per hour.

If I had opted for a Winch launch @ R50-00 –this would translate to R12-50 per hour. I did not take that option because I was carrying 120 kg of water ballast and a fully ballasted glider on the Winch is not the best idea in the event of a cable break.

A good second hand glass glider will set you back about R200,000-00 that will cost you R30,000-00 every 20 years for a new gel coat job ,but apart from that, negligible further costs on maintenance.

Training comes at the cost of hiring the glider ,however instruction is free but club membership is a feature of gliding training and operations and this can cost between R2000 and R5000 per annum .

I can only believe our membership and participation in the sport is not greater because of a complete lack of knowledge of its possibilities as an affordable aviation sport .
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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by GL » Mon Jan 14, 2013 2:58 pm

Volo wrote: I can only believe our membership and participation in the sport is not greater because of a complete lack of knowledge of its possibilities as an affordable aviation sport .
Plus the time blood sweat and tears of getting a GPL for a generation brought up on the instant gratification of video games. The only way for gliding to grow is to make training more accessible.
TMGs would be a good start as are MGCs and Parys and others training camps.
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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by Volo » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:27 pm

GL wrote:
Volo wrote: I can only believe our membership and participation in the sport is not greater because of a complete lack of knowledge of its possibilities as an affordable aviation sport .
Plus the time blood sweat and tears of getting a GPL for a generation brought up on the instant gratification of video games. The only way for gliding to grow is to make training more accessible.
TMGs would be a good start as are MGCs and Parys and others training camps.
Could not agree more GL - opportunity abounds for someone to take the bull by the horns and start a professional gliding school , but not just TMG's - they are no match for the real thing .
We need glider training through comprehensive cross - country training .
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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by GL » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:35 pm

Gliding is sexy - look at movies like The Tomas Crown affair - both times - and in books like 50 Shades of Grey
And its affordable - a rare combination.
But look at how many take a lesson or three and then give up.
It must be more accommodating of students time. come out to the airfield for a booked time and fly like a power flying school and many more will stay the course.
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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by ctwoo » Mon Jan 14, 2013 3:42 pm

Volo wrote:The best-kept secret is the low cost per hour

Yesterday I flew for 4 hours and my launch cost me R250-00 behind a Cessna 182 for 7 minutes.
This translates to a net operating cost of R62-50 per hour.

If I had opted for a Winch launch @ R50-00 –this would translate to R12-50 per hour. I did not take that option because I was carrying 120 kg of water ballast and a fully ballasted glider on the Winch is not the best idea in the event of a cable break.

A good second hand glass glider will set you back about R200,000-00 that will cost you R30,000-00 every 20 years for a new gel coat job ,but apart from that, negligible further costs on maintenance.

Training comes at the cost of hiring the glider ,however instruction is free but club membership is a feature of gliding training and operations and this can cost between R2000 and R5000 per annum .

I can only believe our membership and participation in the sport is not greater because of a complete lack of knowledge of its possibilities as an affordable aviation sport .
Dear Volvo,

I am extremely keen to experience flying in a glider and to explore the possibilities of getting a GPL.

I am based in Cape Town and as far as I know the closest gliding club is Cape Gliding Club in Worcester?
Are there any Avcommers from the club? I would love to arrange to visit the club before the University holidays are over :D

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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by Volo » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:09 pm

PM me James and i will forward you some names and numbers

ps. - you are not that far out with my name - i happen to own a Volvo as it happens :)
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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by ctwoo » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:14 pm

Volo wrote: ps. - you are not that far out with my name - i happen to own a Volvo as it happens :)
Apologies #-o

You'll have a pm in a minute!
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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by heisan » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:29 pm

GL wrote:Gliding is sexy - look at movies like The Tomas Crown affair - both times - and in books like 50 Shades of Grey
And its affordable - a rare combination.
But look at how many take a lesson or three and then give up.
It must be more accommodating of students time. come out to the airfield for a booked time and fly like a power flying school and many more will stay the course.
I would love to do my GPL. But I just cannot afford to sacrifice a whole day every weekend to do the license. I would be perfectly happy to pay a little extra for booked training times, but this does not seem to be an option. I am sure there are many more people in the same boat.
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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by Superfueler » Mon Jan 14, 2013 4:31 pm

Didn't you have some near death experience with Gliding GL? or am I thinking of someone else.
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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by GL » Mon Jan 14, 2013 5:22 pm

Superfueler wrote:Didn't you have some near death experience with Gliding GL? or am I thinking of someone else.
Nope - but I once dramatised a premonition!
Richard Bach wrote a beautiful story called "Death in the Afternoon" - about running out of lift
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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by Swift » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:25 pm

heisan wrote:
GL wrote:Gliding is sexy - look at movies like The Tomas Crown affair - both times - and in books like 50 Shades of Grey
And its affordable - a rare combination.
But look at how many take a lesson or three and then give up.
It must be more accommodating of students time. come out to the airfield for a booked time and fly like a power flying school and many more will stay the course.
I would love to do my GPL. But I just cannot afford to sacrifice a whole day every weekend to do the license. I would be perfectly happy to pay a little extra for booked training times, but this does not seem to be an option. I am sure there are many more people in the same boat.
Hi Heisan

Drop me a pm I assist people who want to do their training at MGC, we might be able to accommodate you at MGC to the extent where your time commitment will be reasonable.

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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by Superfueler » Mon Jan 14, 2013 6:28 pm

GL wrote:
Superfueler wrote:Didn't you have some near death experience with Gliding GL? or am I thinking of someone else.
Nope - but I once dramatised a premonition!
Richard Bach wrote a beautiful story called "Death in the Afternoon" - about running out of lift
Ah that's it. Thanks.
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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by Rebelrabbit » Mon Jan 14, 2013 7:58 pm

Great thread. If you were to now complete a GPL, how much will it count towards/in favour of PPL training (hours)?

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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by Volo » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:25 pm

Rebelrabbit wrote:Great thread. If you were to now complete a GPL, how much will it count towards/in favour of PPL training (hours)?

Nuuskierig.

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15 hours but has far more value in better preparing you for PPL .
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Re: Glidings Best kept Secret

Unread post by Ugly Duckling » Mon Jan 14, 2013 8:39 pm

Winch launch makes any fairground ride look like a nursery school picnic. :D
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