CT Geten 1A Rwy 01 STAR

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CT Geten 1A Rwy 01 STAR

Unread post by Hop Harrigan » Tue Apr 19, 2016 7:59 pm

The above Std Arrival chart into CT shows the turn to final approach annotated with "8000' or above" on the turn.
To reach the runway from 8000' at the end of the turn will require a 1600'/min decent rate. Maybe ok for a 65 tonne airliner but not for a GA single.
Even if one were to leave 8000' at the start of the turn (contrary to the requirement of the chart), it still amounts to an 800'/min decent.
So how do you handle this? Or does ATC break their own rules and get you down earlier...if so, why is the requirement shown on the chart?
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Re: CT Geten 1A Rwy 01 STAR

Unread post by Flugmaour » Tue Apr 19, 2016 8:43 pm

You will be under radar control when flying this arrival, thus terrain and separation will be provided by ATC. Most likely give you vectors to finals long before you reach the 9 DME point.
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Re: CT Geten 1A Rwy 01 STAR

Unread post by hatman » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:36 am

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Re: CT Geten 1A Rwy 01 STAR

Unread post by hatman » Wed Apr 20, 2016 8:37 am

8000ft is the minimum safe altitude that you need to be at in the event that Radar Control is Lost. You cannot be sure of your position laterally without radar control and thus the surrounding terrain dictates 8000ft MSA. You will be a lot lower than 8000ft while under radar control normally down to around 3000ft at that point.
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Re: CT Geten 1A Rwy 01 STAR

Unread post by transducer » Fri Apr 22, 2016 5:46 pm

If I'm not mistaken Jeppesen have recently removed the 8000' MEA (minumun enroute alt) from all STAR's into FACT? If you think of it the use of the MEA is pointless as you may not conduct this STAR if the secondary radar is unserviceable and if you had a comms failure you would follow another procedure which would take care of terrain clearance anyway. Remember that Jeppesen just publish what the local AIP has so who knows why our CAA have it there in the first place as it is on a radar vectored leg.

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