The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by Flyerhuks » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:37 pm

Captain.huzaifa wrote:Hi Guys
Can any one recommend what notes or books to study from for this IR exam? :lol:
I'd say the Oxford ATPL books. I've received questions in the following categories: Airlaw, Instruments, Performance, Human performance, MET, Operational Procedures and principles of flight. Probably one or two more, but I have forgotten.

It did seem like there were a few similarities between the two exams that I wrote. Both of my exams asked question around the following topics: Identifying clouds from a picture, behaviour in the cockpit, interpreting position from a picture of instruments, identifying runway lights from a picture, anatomy of the eye, CFIT and noise abatement procedures(local knowledge required).
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by Captain.huzaifa » Thu Feb 23, 2017 5:53 pm

Have you had more then 4 exams before june 2016 or are u constantly writing?
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by Flyerhuks » Thu Feb 23, 2017 6:04 pm

Captain.huzaifa wrote:Have you had more then 4 exams before june 2016 or are u constantly writing?
I started writing in January. For my purposes I only need to write 4 exams, law, met, planning and IR. I was told that my next attempt will be the last of my 3 attempts before the 2 month exclusion period.
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by Captain.huzaifa » Thu Feb 23, 2017 7:05 pm

Hi
So after you finish your fourth exam you will be excluded from the 2 month period although u did not have 4 exams before june 2016?
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by Piggy-Hawk » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:24 am

Have you guys considered that your answers might be correct and that the exam answers are wrong?

I wrote Nav today and asked to review the questions which I incorrectly answered and I picked up a few peculiar things.

The one question asked what the headwind component is for W/V 20/20 when runway 08 is in use. My answer: angle between runway and wind (80 - 20 = 60) at 20kts gives a headwind of 10kts. I still believe this is correct.

The other question asked the pressure altitude when the QNH is 1900. There is no way that the QNH will ever be 1900 - you need to take a reading deep in the ocean to get a QNH of 1900.

Not my own calculations or the calculator gave an answer coming close to any of the options.

I then assumed they made a typo and calculated at 1009 which also didn't match any answer and neither did 1090.
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by hlouw » Fri Feb 24, 2017 12:11 pm

Captain.huzaifa wrote:Hi
So after you finish your fourth exam you will be excluded from the 2 month period although u did not have 4 exams before june 2016?
I believe that IR is not part of the Com subjects anymore therefore even if you passed 4 subjects it does not matter. Like night rating, IR is now a standalone subject and the 2 month waiting will apply should fail it twice. That how I understand it.
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by Captain.huzaifa » Fri Feb 24, 2017 1:32 pm

The two months does not apply to you if you had 4 or more exams before June 2016
They make an exception for it
We have confirmed it with Theo odendaal,the testing officer at CAA
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by richardfloyd » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:04 pm

Did my first attempt this morning.

My initial advice: buy and read Understanding the Cats and Cars and Understanding the Jeppesen.

Also, there were many questions on GNSS and GNSS type approaches that were never part of the old syllabus. Do some reading on GNSS, receivers, RAIM, etc.

Rest was fairly standard, with a slight twist on scenarios rather than parrot fashion regurgitation.
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by Captain.huzaifa » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:15 pm

Thanks buddy...
Was the exam quite tough or was it ok?
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by hlouw » Fri Feb 24, 2017 2:18 pm

Captain.huzaifa wrote:The two months does not apply to you if you had 4 or more exams before June 2016
They make an exception for it
We have confirmed it with Theo odendaal,the testing officer at CAA
Please find attached document for review
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by Insane » Thu Mar 02, 2017 11:54 am

Any more folks written this exam lately and willing to share their success/failure, thoughts and experiences and what would be the recommended notes to use?
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by stefanlfouche » Thu Mar 02, 2017 10:40 pm

Hey everyone

Im just a bit confused. Correct me if im wrong. According to my understanding, the IR and GR exams are not part of the CPL exams. Does this mean that if I passed all 8 subjects, Airlaw, Instruments, ATG, NAV, MET Flight Panning, Human Performance and Radio COMM, that they are valid for 36 months in which i can write the IR exam without the 8 CPL subjects lapsing? #-o
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by Captain.huzaifa » Fri Mar 03, 2017 8:08 am

Hi
Yes you are correct
After you finish your CPL subjects they are valid for 36 months.The IR exam is a stand alone exam and is not included in the lapsing of the CPL exams at all
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by richardfloyd » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:30 pm

Ok, just finished my second attempt, herewith the feedback:

1. I did a lot better this time.

2. Do not even book your exam until you have read AIC 005-2016 which gives recommended study material. As well as the syllabus.

3. You must read Understanding the CATS and CARS and Understanding the Jeppesen.

4. You must know the old comm material.

5. The exam is about 50% the old comm material and and about 50% new instrument questions. The old are more theory based, the new are more practical and interpretation based.

6. The questions that require interpretation of plates or diagrams or require calculations are worth more points.

7. In both exams I got questions on (1) PET/PNR calculation, (2) Density Altitude calculation, (3) flight director interpretation, (4) SHELL, (5) stabilised approaches, (6) altimeter setting procedures (7) taxiway markings (8) wake turbulence (9) ground de-icing (10) instrument scans, (11) radiation fog (12) radar stabilisation (13) Stress (14) CFIT

Hope this helps
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Re: The New Instrument Rating Syllabus

Unread post by Captain.huzaifa » Fri Mar 03, 2017 12:42 pm

Thanks buddy

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