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Backwards Auto

Unread post by Scotsman » Mon Dec 22, 2014 9:37 am

Tangle/Pete - Crazy Russian chaps doing backwards autos....... :shock: :shock: :shock:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7wFBUAZi5XU
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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by Pete » Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:08 pm

Blerrie hell... :shock: :shock: you got to have big goens to do that..

But lovely to see autos done so masterfully! =D> :D
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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by tanglefoot » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:49 pm

If you ever get the opportunity to go on a Robinson Safety course in SA you MUST sign up.

We had Tim Tucker from Robinson doing the lectures and a couple of instructors doing the flights. It is a full-on safety course excluding the factory visit and if you still fly ANYTHING after all the scare stories and pictures you either weren't listening or you are an aviation nut :D . I wasn't fortunate enough to go for a flight with Tim but it was still an experience to be remembered.

We set up a hover 2000ft above the landing zone and then entered an autorotation in the hover. Using the pedals you could then orientate the helicopter in any direction while in auto-hover. Finally we reversed until we could see the LZ and then using normal auto technique landed directly below where we started. Recovery started at 500ft agl, if memory serves me. If I was 2000ft AGL with an engine failure and the only LZ was directly below me I will definitely try it but in all other circumstances I would resort to normal emergency ops :D

Admittedly it took 2000ft but given enough options anything is possible. I clocked up my 100hrs on the trip back from Magoebaskloof to Joburg. If I had the opportunity again with nearly 400hrs under the belt it would be even more rewarding.
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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by tanglefoot » Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:57 pm

Pete wrote:Blerrie hell... :shock: :shock: you got to have big goens to do that..

But lovely to see autos done so masterfully! =D> :D
I've had instructors demonstrating a few "techniques" with auto-rotations and thankfully a blip or two of the throttle have made them work.

I wonder how many of those guys would try that method without a backup plan :?:
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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by Scotsman » Wed Dec 24, 2014 7:38 am

Would love to go on the safety course sometime in the future. Do they courses in SA Tangle? I thought it was a US only thing.

Not sure that there is an escape plan for this sort of maneuver!
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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by tanglefoot » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:21 pm

Scotsman wrote:Would love to go on the safety course sometime in the future. Do they courses in SA Tangle? I thought it was a US only thing.

Not sure that there is an escape plan for this sort of maneuver!
Hover Dynamics at Grand Central and NAC used to arrange to bring out Tim. Haven't heard of one for a while though.
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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by Scotsman » Wed Dec 24, 2014 12:29 pm

Will look out for it in the future and hopefully they organise it again
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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by Fransw » Thu Oct 05, 2017 4:16 pm

tanglefoot wrote:
Scotsman wrote:Would love to go on the safety course sometime in the future. Do they courses in SA Tangle? I thought it was a US only thing.

Not sure that there is an escape plan for this sort of maneuver!
Hover Dynamics at Grand Central and NAC used to arrange to bring out Tim. Haven't heard of one for a while though.
There's a Robinson pilot safety course at Starlite aviation 28-29 October 2017!..(R5500)

Or book a ticket to California for the course at the factory. They also do the course somewhere in the UK.($700 for the course)

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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by Rotor kop » Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:44 pm

Fransw wrote:
tanglefoot wrote:
Scotsman wrote:Would love to go on the safety course sometime in the future. Do they courses in SA Tangle? I thought it was a US only thing.

Not sure that there is an escape plan for this sort of maneuver!
Hover Dynamics at Grand Central and NAC used to arrange to bring out Tim. Haven't heard of one for a while though.
There's a Robinson pilot safety course at Starlite aviation 28-29 October 2017!..(R5500)

Or book a ticket to California for the course at the factory. They also do the course somewhere in the UK.($700 for the course)

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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by Fransw » Thu Oct 05, 2017 5:54 pm

Rotor kop wrote:
Fransw wrote:
tanglefoot wrote: Hover Dynamics at Grand Central and NAC used to arrange to bring out Tim. Haven't heard of one for a while though.
There's a Robinson pilot safety course at Starlite aviation 28-29 October 2017!..(R5500)

Or book a ticket to California for the course at the factory. They also do the course somewhere in the UK.($700 for the course)

:D
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Do i call starlight to book? Will Tim be coming out?
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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by Rotor kop » Thu Oct 05, 2017 6:35 pm

Fransw wrote:
Rotor kop wrote:
Fransw wrote:
There's a Robinson pilot safety course at Starlite aviation 28-29 October 2017!..(R5500)

Or book a ticket to California for the course at the factory. They also do the course somewhere in the UK.($700 for the course)

:D
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Do i call starlight to book? Will Tim be coming out?
RK, I don't know about Tim! I saw the ad in the latest SAF p21 on the back part. Starlite's tel. 031 571 6600..
Thanks Frans. I did not realize they where in MBay :shock:
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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by helicopterman » Thu Oct 05, 2017 8:27 pm

What does one get for R5500.00.
12 mins in a real Heli :twisted: no just kidding what could one expect to glean from the course?
Don't you guys do backwards autos :wink:
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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by cage » Thu Oct 05, 2017 10:30 pm

helicopterman wrote:What does one get for R5500.00.
12 mins in a real Heli :twisted: no just kidding what could one expect to glean from the course?
Don't you guys do backwards autos :wink:
Some may argue the average Robbie driver is a bit backwards on a good day ;)
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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by Jack Welles » Fri Oct 06, 2017 7:21 am

I know it's from long ago, but haven't seen the OP's vid before - enviously brilliant control! =D>
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Re: Backwards Auto

Unread post by hugo_visser » Mon Jul 16, 2018 7:00 pm

When there is a course like that again please count me in. Done the vertical auto 180 deg pedal turn and side slip. Fantastic and learnt a lot.

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