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Re: Corona Virus

Unread post by paulw » Sat Jul 11, 2020 7:46 pm

danie.e wrote:
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Out of quarantine for just one post:

Just been informed from a very reliable source (will not divulge names for ethical reasons) that a family member was tested and found positive for Covid 19 with the following symptoms:

1) No fever
2) Runny nose
3) Phlegmy cough of short duration
4) Slight stiffness in neck

Symptom checks would make interesting reading from other people who tested positive ?!?!?
Sounds like the opposite from what I have read. (I speak under correction) Usually no Phlegm and do have fever, sometimes loss of taste and smell, maybe diarrhea.

What is the chances the person is asymptomatic for COVID-19 although tested positive and have a normal cold or flu on top of it?
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Unread post by Fransw » Mon Jul 13, 2020 11:37 am

Anyone has thebreakdown of Rama's speech? Missed it..
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Fransw wrote:
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Anyone has thebreakdown of Rama's speech? Missed it..
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Unread post by paulw » Tue Jul 14, 2020 11:15 am

https://www.jacarandafm.com/news/news/m ... -sea-8987/
Argentina is trying to solve a medical mystery after 57 sailors were infected with the coronavirus after 35 days at sea, despite the entire crew testing negative before leaving port.
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Unread post by rare bird » Tue Jul 14, 2020 8:53 pm

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https://www.jacarandafm.com/news/news/m ... -sea-8987/
Argentina is trying to solve a medical mystery after 57 sailors were infected with the coronavirus after 35 days at sea, despite the entire crew testing negative before leaving port.
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perhaps too much faith is being placed in test kits?
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Unread post by paulw » Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:12 am

Interesting read why some EU countries did better than others in fighting the virus.
Revealed: how Italy's call for urgent help went ignored as coronavirus swept through Europe
https://www.msn.com/en-za/news/world/re ... d=msedgdhp

Some excerpts:
“The whole logic is give the commission the means to support member states more. Because when Italy asked for help, nobody could give help. We also couldn’t help Italy.”
There was red-hot anger in the commission’s headquarters. “The commission acted forcefully and immediately in order to persuade all those member states that indulged in such selfish measures,” Lenarčič said.
“At the time we had desperate need of PPE and ventilators and it was almost impossible to find it on the market,” Ricciardi recalled. “So our call was distribution of what was present in Europe and joint procurement. But it took two months to do that. Not for lack of willingness of the European commission but the process was so slow and bureaucratic. We only had ventilators when our acute situation was over.”
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Unread post by paulw » Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:40 am

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-africa ... ink1_.auin
Coronavirus in South Africa: Inside Port Elizabeth's 'hospitals of horrors'
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Re: Corona Virus

Unread post by paulw » Thu Jul 16, 2020 7:05 pm

EKONOMIE
5 skokfeite uit groot studie oor inperking
Deur: Hanlie Stadler
9 uur.
Omvattende navorsing oor die invloed van die Covid-19-pandemie en gepaardgaande inperking is Woensdag uitgereik. Meer as 30 navorsers van Suid-Afrikaanse en selfs buitelandse universiteite soos Harvard en Oxford het inligting uit ’n peiling onder meer as 7 000 Suid-Afrikaners verwerk. Onder die ontstellende syfers uit die peiling is die volgende. Die LEES OOK-artikels gee meer inligting oor die bevindings.

   

1. 3 miljoen Suid-Afrikaners het hul werk verloor
Tussen Februarie en April het 3 miljoen Suid-Afrikaners hul werk verloor weens die inperking. 

Net 17% van die respondente was vol vertroue dat hulle ná die inperking na ’n werk sal kan terugkeer.

LEES OOK: 3 miljoen mense het in April hul werk verloor

Byna 2 miljoen (tweederdes) van die mense wat hul werk verloor het, was vroue. Die verantwoordelikheid om na hul kinders om te sien terwyl skole en kleuterskole toe was, het ook swaarder op vroue gerus - ongeag of hulle hul werk behou het.

LEES OOK: Inperking tref vroue veel swaarder

  

2. Enorme onkunde heers oor Covid-19 se simptome, voorkoming

Die Covid-19-pandemie en gepaardgaande inperking het die land se bestaande ekonomiese krisis dramaties vererger. Foto: Getty Images
Net 6% van Suid-Afrikaners kon die drie belangrikste simptome van Covid-19 – hoes, koors en moegheid – opnoem.

Daarby het net 35% al drie die belangrikste dinge gedoen om die verspreiding van die siekte te voorkom. Dit is om groot groepe mense te vermy, ’n masker te dra en sosiale distansiëring toe te pas.

Die navorsers wys daarop dat 70% van mense nou gereeld hul hande was of ontsmet, maar sê dis nou al bewys dat kontakbesmetting nie die grootste risiko is vir die oordrag van die virus wat Covid-19 veroorsaak nie.

LEES OOK: Net 6% ken Covid-19 se 3 belangrikste simptome

    

3. Hongersnood het skerp toegeneem
Nagenoeg 2,2 miljoen Suid-Afrikaners het in April honger gely.

47% van Suid-Afrikaners se geld vir kos het in April opgeraak – byna dubbeld die persentasie wat in vorige peilings gemeet is.

15% van kinders het in April honger gely.

LEES OOK: Só ly SA honger weens inperking

   

4. 5,4 miljoen mense het tydens inperking verhuis
Byna 2,7 miljoen mense – die meeste van hulle studente – het kort voor die inperking teruggekeer na hul ouerhuis. Nog 1,7 miljoen mense het tydens die vergunning daarvoor in Mei verhuis, en net meer as 1 miljoen het albei kere verhuis.

Die meeste van die 1 miljoen wat twee keer verhuis het, was mense wat teruggekeer het werk toe toe die vlak van inperking verlig is en meer nywerhede oopgemaak het.

LEES OOK: 5,4 miljoen mense verhuis tydens inperking

    

5. Basiese gesondheidsorg het agterweë gebly
Baie mense (39%) met chroniese toestande soos diabetes, hartsiektes en tuberkulose het nie in April of Mei hul medisyne gaan haal nie uit vrees dat hulle Covid-19 sal opdoen.

Onder die kommerwekkendste syfers is dat 11% van MIV-positiewe vroue nie hul antiretrovirale middels gaan haal het nie. Dié middels is die beste beskerming wat daar is teen MIV-oordrag tussen ’n ma en haar baba.

LEES OOK: Vrees vir Covid-19 laat roetinesorg ly


    

Oor die studie
Die National Income Dynamics Study (Nids) Coronavirus Rapid Mobile Survey (Cram), oftewel Nids-Cram, is die grootste nie-mediese navorsingsprojek oor Covid-19 tot nog toe. Dit word deur ’n konsortium van meer as 30 navorsers van vyf Suid-Afrikaanse en buitelandse universiteite gedoen.

Meer as 7 000 mense is in telefoniese onderhoude van 20 minute lank oor aspekte soos werk, honger in hul huishouding, migrasie, staatstoelaes en hul persepsies en gedrag met betrekking tot Covid-19 uitgevra. Die oproepe is deur 50 oproepsentrumagente gedoen wat in tien tale kon werk.

Die navorsers gaan tot Desember vanjaar minstens vyf fases van die navorsing uitreik. Fase 1 se navorsing is Woensdag uitgereik.

Die eerste fase se peiling is van 7 Mei tot 27 Junie gedoen. Dit het mense uitgevra oor die tyd van Februarie tot April, met veral April wa
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Unread post by SNIPER » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:09 pm

O.k. so I have received a warning about being a troll so I will abide by the rules and not just post links , vids, quotes and will partake in the discussions were I can. I might add though that 70% of my total posts are still aircraft related although not lately.
That said I'm playing under this and not the conspiracy thread as we all know what we the conspiracy theorists think. What I would like to know how do the others feel the future is going to play out. Considering that we are in day 100 and 10 and seventy or whatever in south Africa and the rest of the world is seeming to be struggling to get back to normal.
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Unread post by Whirly » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:37 pm

SNIPER wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:09 pm
O.k. so I have received a warning about being a troll so I will abide by the rules and not just post links , vids, quotes and will partake in the discussions were I can. I might add though that 70% of my total posts are still aircraft related although not lately.
That said I'm playing under this and not the conspiracy thread as we all know what we the conspiracy theorists think. What I would like to know how do the others feel the future is going to play out. Considering that we are in day 100 and 10 and seventy or whatever in south Africa and the rest of the world is seeming to be struggling to get back to normal.
I think inter Provincial travel by end of Oct/Nov and International borders by Feb 2021 only. The economic downturn that started in March this year will only reach the lowest point by March next year and will stay at that low point for a few months. The damages done till then will leave more people unemployed than ever in SA and poverty at its worst. Only then by late next year will a very slow and painful recovery start. Crime, I am afraid, will be at an all time high starting by November this year and will escalate during next year. 8-[

But then again, I am always optimistic so it might be far worse than that. :roll:

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Unread post by SNIPER » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:01 pm

Whirly wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:37 pm
SNIPER wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:09 pm
O.k. so I have received a warning about being a troll so I will abide by the rules and not just post links , vids, quotes and will partake in the discussions were I can. I might add though that 70% of my total posts are still aircraft related although not lately.
That said I'm playing under this and not the conspiracy thread as we all know what we the conspiracy theorists think. What I would like to know how do the others feel the future is going to play out. Considering that we are in day 100 and 10 and seventy or whatever in south Africa and the rest of the world is seeming to be struggling to get back to normal.
I think inter Provincial travel by end of Oct/Nov and International borders by Feb 2021 only. The economic downturn that started in March this year will only reach the lowest point by March next year and will stay at that low point for a few months. The damages done till then will leave more people unemployed than ever in SA and poverty at its worst. Only then by late next year will a very slow and painful recovery start. Crime, I am afraid, will be at an all time high starting by November this year and will escalate during next year. 8-[

But then again, I am always optimistic so it might be far worse than that. :roll:

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Unread post by Whirly » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:09 pm

SNIPER wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:01 pm
Whirly wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:37 pm
SNIPER wrote:
Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:09 pm
O.k. so I have received a warning about being a troll so I will abide by the rules and not just post links , vids, quotes and will partake in the discussions were I can. I might add though that 70% of my total posts are still aircraft related although not lately.
That said I'm playing under this and not the conspiracy thread as we all know what we the conspiracy theorists think. What I would like to know how do the others feel the future is going to play out. Considering that we are in day 100 and 10 and seventy or whatever in south Africa and the rest of the world is seeming to be struggling to get back to normal.
I think inter Provincial travel by end of Oct/Nov and International borders by Feb 2021 only. The economic downturn that started in March this year will only reach the lowest point by March next year and will stay at that low point for a few months. The damages done till then will leave more people unemployed than ever in SA and poverty at its worst. Only then by late next year will a very slow and painful recovery start. Crime, I am afraid, will be at an all time high starting by November this year and will escalate during next year. 8-[

But then again, I am always optimistic so it might be far worse than that. :roll:

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I don't think we are going to get rid of masks and most restrictions until the vaccine is available.
Probably not.

What is happening in Sweden these days, it has been very quiet?

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Unread post by paulw » Tue Jul 28, 2020 11:42 pm

Whirly wrote:
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What is happening in Sweden these days, it has been very quiet?

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Sweden is doing well. Deaths per week down from a peak of +-750 per week to about 60 per week.

Looking at population numbers then Sweden is doing better than UK.
UK population 60m with currently around 450+- deaths per week.
Sweden population +-10m

SA still increasing so haven't received the peak yet.
Brazil reached the peak by the looks of it.
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