Corona Virus

[rainier]

It appears like the death rate do not (yet?) follow the infection rate.
I wonder whether the hospitalization rate also not follow the infection rate?

Sadly it does. Severity rate of infections has not changed in any significant way.
The only good news is that the death rate vs infection rate has improved fairly significantly due to improved knowledge and resources about how to treat this thing.
But that will be compromised if we run out of hospital resources...

[skytrooper]

Finally a Vaccine has been produced that seems to actually be THE vaccine. It seems that 94.5% of 15000 people that was tested with it was a success. This should finally end this maddening plague.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/16/heal ... index.html

[Sideslip]

Finally a Vaccine has been produced that seems to actually be THE vaccine. It seems that 95% of 15000 people that was tested with it was a success. This should finally end this maddening plague.

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/11/16/heal ... index.html

I read that SA has a major challenge with regards to the Pfizer vaccine in that it needs to travel and be stored at -70 degrees C. We simply don't have the infrastructure to handle this at this time.

[skytrooper]

Its not that one, its the Moderna vaccine, that, it only needs -20 degree storage if you read the article again you'll see.

[Sideslip]

Its not that one, its the Moderna vaccine, that, it only needs -20 degree storage if you read the article again you'll see.

I should have read it properly ... yes that seems like good news all around.

[rainier]

Several others that are in advanced stages are also relatively low temp storage.
It's remarkable that the two vaccines so far are this effective - but given the high survival rate after infection perhaps not too surprising. What makes the virus mutate easily also makes it vulnerable.
Brilliant news though - with a bit of luck give it 9 months or so this this will be largely over for good. The experience gained in rapid vaccine development will come in handy in future as well.

[Fransw]

So what was Rama's speech all about last night?

[heisan]

High quality trial, reasonably good results, and the drug is actually available in SA:

https://montreal.ctvnews.ca/quebec-rese ... -1.5279310

[fairy flycatcher]

Been doing a bit of reading on the Spanish Flu. My interest angle is from a perspective of where did it go and what brought the pandemic to an end. Appears from my limited research is that it fizzled out once those who had it perished or became immune. Some interesting background here: https://www.history.com/topics/world-wa ... u-pandemic

[fairy flycatcher]

Covid-19 vaccines: ethical, legal and practical considerations

Resolution 2361 (2021) | Provisional version

Parliamentary Assembly

7.3 with respect to ensuring high vaccine uptake:
7.3.1 ensure that citizens are informed that the vaccination is NOT mandatory and that no one is politically, socially, or otherwise pressured to get themselves vaccinated, if they do not wish to do so themselves;
7.3.2 ensure that no one is discriminated against for not having been vaccinated, due to possible health risks or not wanting to be vaccinated;
7.3.3 take early effective measures to counter misinformation, disinformation and hesitancy regarding Covid-19 vaccines;
7.3.4 distribute transparent information on the safety and possible side effects of vaccines, working with and regulating social media platforms to prevent the spread of misinformation;
7.3.5 communicate transparently the contents of contracts with vaccine producers and make them publicly available for parliamentary and public scrutiny;
7.3.6 collaborate with non-governmental organisations and/or other local efforts to reach out to marginalised groups;
7.3.7 engage with local communities in developing and implementing tailored strategies to support vaccine uptake;

https://pace.coe.int/en/files/29004/html

[fairy flycatcher]

Monoclonal antibodies can prevent COVID-19—but successful vaccines complicate their future

By Jon CohenJan. 22, 2021 , 4:20 PM

Science’s COVID-19 reporting is supported by the Pulitzer Center and the Heising-Simons Foundation.

A study in U.S. nursing homes has shown for the first time that monoclonal antibodies, mass-produced in a laboratory, can protect people from developing symptomatic COVID-19. Their manufacturer, Eli Lilly, hopes these antibodies will provide an additional way to protect people at risk of serious disease from the pandemic coronavirus. But given the success of COVID-19 vaccines and their increasing availability, it’s not clear that the expensive and somewhat cumbersome intervention will be widely used.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2021/01 ... eir-future

Seeing that many vaccines are not recommended for the very young or the very frail, this could add significantly to reducing the world wide panic and hopefully more people will be able to think straight enough again to see the wood for the trees.

PS, it feels a little funny posting on the "Corona Virus" instead of the conspiracy thread. So much of what I posted before was removed by the thought police, much of it proved accurate, mostly cited from scientific sources. It's good to see some semblance of sanity slowly crawling its way into a very crazy world as fewer of those with alternative( but equally valid) perspectives to the official narrative are no longer silenced as aggressively.

[rare bird]

No meaningful evidence for clinical efficacy in patients with Covid-19' says Merck, the Ivermectin manufacturer:
https://www.news24.com/news24/southafri ... r-20210205

[Fransw]

The SA variant is now in the US and they are sh*t scared..

https://timesofsandiego.com/health/2021 ... -bay-area/

edit: its the first time the US is scared of something from SA!

[V5 - LEO]

......below and extract from the article in question, SA says vaccinating with Astra Zeneca will not be effective as the new strain spreads more rapidly but is not as deadly.

....I do not comprehend, is a vaccine done to stem the spread or to help the infected??

[GoneMissed]

The SA variant is now in the US and they are sh*t scared..

https://timesofsandiego.com/health/2021 ... -bay-area/

edit: its the first time the US is scared of something from SA!

Eh, depends on who you ask and what you watch. Per CNN, we should be afraid of our own shadow.

But the reality is most normal Americans are going on with our lives.