How NOT to land your plane

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How NOT to land your plane

Unread post by p38 » Fri May 13, 2022 10:53 am

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Re: How NOT to land your plane

Unread post by rainier » Fri May 13, 2022 11:04 am

Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.

I think some instructor told me that.

Granted, it's not a great landing and there may be a bit of buffing needed - but looks like pilot (and possible pax) walked away from it ?

But seriously - this is not a landing that even a bad pilot would perform, so that must mean there is more to the story...
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Re: How NOT to land your plane

Unread post by ddevos » Fri May 13, 2022 11:12 am

Based on plenty of videos and photos of other landings at this airport, the aircraft was certainly too high and then descended too fast, with no attempt to flare. Some aircraft approach so low over that road that you have to wonder how they miss the vehicles. Not that they always miss everything, though...
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Re: How NOT to land your plane

Unread post by Lood » Fri May 13, 2022 11:15 am

It seems that he was lined up OK, initially, but for some reason he then pitched up and got too high. Might be that the rising ground on short final fooled him into believing that he was getting too low?
He then seemed set on getting the airplane down onto the runway, as close as possible to the threshold and couldn't or didn't arrest the excessive sink, in time.

Perfect scenario where a go-around would have been the correct action instead ...
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Re: How NOT to land your plane

Unread post by Trevor Duane » Fri May 13, 2022 12:49 pm

Lood wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 11:15 am
It seems that he was lined up OK, initially, but for some reason he then pitched up and got too high. Might be that the rising ground on short final fooled him into believing that he was getting too low?
He then seemed set on getting the airplane down onto the runway, as close as possible to the threshold and couldn't or didn't arrest the excessive sink, in time.

Perfect scenario where a go-around would have been the correct action instead ...
If this was the PIC's first arrival at this airport I agree with you. Our local airfield has a hill right on the approach end of one runway. The hill is so close that the foot of the hill ends right at the runway threshold. When we land there if you watch the shadow of the aircraft it is quite alarming how quickly you think you are too low when the shadow is stable, then goes away a bit then very rapidly comes up at you again as you pass over the very top of the hill. I can see how this would make a pilot react by adding power and climbing a bit.
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Re: How NOT to land your plane

Unread post by Still_Learning » Fri May 13, 2022 1:28 pm

I get the bit about climbing due to the proximity to ground and coming in too high, but there are better ways to get her down (or go around) than banging her on the tarmac... unless wind over those hills create rotors and sink that the pilot couldn't negate
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Re: How NOT to land your plane

Unread post by Lood » Fri May 13, 2022 1:40 pm

I think the pilot realized (too late unfortunately) that he was going land way deep and probably run out of runway, so he forced it down.
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Re: How NOT to land your plane

Unread post by 34south » Fri May 13, 2022 2:51 pm

Still_Learning wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 1:28 pm
... unless wind over those hills create rotors and sink that the pilot couldn't negate

There are 2 windsocks on the ridge (left and right of flight path) which seemed to indicate a steady wind of 15kts (estimate)

I’d imagine there would be substantial updraft once you cross into the bowl. Maybe someone with glider experience can comment?
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Re: How NOT to land your plane

Unread post by Kiewiet Vlok » Sat May 14, 2022 3:56 pm

Whow that was an impressive short field landing!!!
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Re: How NOT to land your plane

Unread post by Kiewiet Vlok » Sat May 14, 2022 3:59 pm

Jokes aside a Sportman can catch one out if short field approach is 50-55 and forget to flair with power !!!
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Re: How NOT to land your plane

Unread post by liaan » Sat May 14, 2022 4:10 pm

34south wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 2:51 pm
Still_Learning wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 1:28 pm
... unless wind over those hills create rotors and sink that the pilot couldn't negate

There are 2 windsocks on the ridge (left and right of flight path) which seemed to indicate a steady wind of 15kts (estimate)

I’d imagine there would be substantial updraft once you cross into the bowl. Maybe someone with glider experience can comment?
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Re: How NOT to land your plane

Unread post by flysouth » Sat May 14, 2022 6:33 pm

He did not land that, he threw it at the ground in desperation to avoid the simple and always safe alternative of going around!

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