ZS - PME Accident Wattville - 3 Deceased RIP

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Re: ZS - PME Accident Wattville - 3 Deceased RIP

Unread post by Peregrine » Mon May 28, 2018 7:37 pm

I have received a prompt and encouraging response from CAA. Will post again, hopefully soon.
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Unread post by savas » Mon May 28, 2018 9:20 pm

=D> =D>
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Unread post by Peregrine » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:06 pm

Another very encouraging response from CAA. The shortcomings of the ZS-PME report have been recognized. A review of the report is planned. Should the review reveal evidence that affects the findings regarding the probable cause of the accident, there is the option of reopening the investigation.
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Re: ZS - PME Accident Wattville - 3 Deceased RIP

Unread post by Ugly Duckling » Thu Jun 07, 2018 2:29 pm

Thanks for stepping up to the plate. Hopefully the future reports will make more sense.
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Re: ZS - PME Accident Wattville - 3 Deceased RIP

Unread post by GL » Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:04 am

I see the original report has been pulled from the website.
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Unread post by jimdavis » Sat Jun 09, 2018 8:23 am

Ah ha - that is a good sign - I think.

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Unread post by Peregrine » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:26 pm

Very positive meeting with Peter Mashaba today. He has very encouraging plans to improve the standard of investigations and reports, aiming to be on par with first-world countries. This will obviously not happen overnight, requiring extensive training and support for those involved.
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Unread post by V5 - LEO » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:30 pm

Peregrine wrote:Very positive meeting with Peter Mashaba today. He has very encouraging plans to improve the standard of investigations and reports, aiming to be on par with first-world countries. This will obviously not happen overnight, requiring extensive training and support for those involved.
...that is good to hear, hope they will firstly source local knowledge for the education phase, before "contracting it to a consultant" that will devour very limited funds? But good to hear!
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Re: ZS - PME Accident Wattville - 3 Deceased RIP

Unread post by cage » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:52 pm

Peregrine wrote:Very positive meeting with Peter Mashaba today. He has very encouraging plans to improve the standard of investigations and reports, aiming to be on par with first-world countries. This will obviously not happen overnight, requiring extensive training and support for those involved.
Hey Mr P, let me know when I can issue a "told you so" to all the naysayers ;)
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Unread post by Peregrine » Thu Jun 14, 2018 6:19 am

cage wrote:
Peregrine wrote:Very positive meeting with Peter Mashaba today. He has very encouraging plans to improve the standard of investigations and reports, aiming to be on par with first-world countries. This will obviously not happen overnight, requiring extensive training and support for those involved.
Hey Mr P, let me know when I can issue a "told you so" to all the naysayers ;)
:smt023 I really hope I’ll be able to do so in due course.
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Unread post by GL » Thu Jun 14, 2018 7:47 am

Very encouraging. I daresay it was Jim's critique of the Accident reports in my WUCAA! series and then the response here to the PME report that has finally motivated the CAA to fix itself.
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Unread post by apollo11 » Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:50 am

cage wrote:
Peregrine wrote:Very positive meeting with Peter Mashaba today. He has very encouraging plans to improve the standard of investigations and reports, aiming to be on par with first-world countries. This will obviously not happen overnight, requiring extensive training and support for those involved.
Hey Mr P, let me know when I can issue a "told you so" to all the naysayers ;)
Cage, you sound like a certain president, the guy with the smooth slicked back straw coloured hair that is adamant his neighbor will pay for the wall! :lol:

Jokes aside fantastic effort by Peregrine. =D>
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Re: ZS - PME Accident Wattville - 3 Deceased RIP

Unread post by Peregrine » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:23 am

Some progress - I have received an updated draft of the report for comment. There are, in my opinion, still fundamental shortcomings. Rather than a back and forth exchange of comments via mail, I shall hopefully be able to sit for an hour or two with the authors to improve the report.
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Unread post by Ugly Duckling » Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:47 am

Our input is appreciated =D>
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Re: ZS - PME Accident Wattville - 3 Deceased RIP

Unread post by ddevos » Wed Nov 07, 2018 10:38 am

Fantastic news, Peregrine! =D>
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