Radial Rocket down at Bara

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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by Mrb13676 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:36 am

They were doing circuits at Bara - I saw some video of one of the touch and go’s - I think this plane must be hard work - approach speed looks pretty fast.

Hope it gets flying again soon...
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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by Ugly Duckling » Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:49 am

Not called a Radial Rocket in jest :shock:
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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by Bassboy » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:15 am

Cornell Blok wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 7:34 am
I work in Delporton, on the side that faces Munsieville and I remember watching them putting this through its paces on what I assume was it's maiden flight and that approach to land was pretty scary, the sink rate on that plane is quite something and you can see on the vid when the pilot had to quickly give throttle.....I was holding my breath :shock:

Beautiful plane though, hope they get her back together soon and tame that beast :D
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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by Richard Smit » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:20 am

Beautiful aircraft. Looks like something Howard Hughes would have approved of!

I’d suggest that it will be wise to fly off a longer, wider runway than that though. Certainly until the pilot is very comfortable in that aircraft.

That way, one can do the initial (test) flying without needing to worry about stopping her in time.

Hope it’s up and fixed soon, and glad no one was hurt.

A question...

How will the pilot manage to egress if the aircraft ends-up upside-down on the ground, after an accident?
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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by STEEL » Wed Jun 12, 2019 8:35 am

That vert stab and rudder seems very small for the size of aircraft.
How much of that is blanked off by the fuse during the 3-point attitude coming into land,
making controlling even more of a handful at the lower airspeeds on the ground.

You can see the rudder working hard in the video...
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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by Christo » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:18 am

Cornell Blok wrote:
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Yo yo yo, need your finger out on this one it seems!
Due to the price increase in ammunition, do not expect a warning shot.

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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by Sideslip » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:38 am

The video posted above was from the maiden flight around 14/15 May at FAKR

The test pilot posted on the various watsapp groups a very candid account of what happened yesterday at Bara. The owner was in the aircraft with the test pilot at the time of the incident. The test pilot had about 3 hours on the aircraft so far.

The TP has many hours on S1 Pitts specials as well as heavier taildraggers.
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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by ACE MAN » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:41 am

Not sure if it was solo or 2 up. Looks similar to an RV8 and the handling on an 8 is significantly easier solo than with weight in the back. Also the 8 solo is near impossible to 3 pointer if flown solo , so don’t even go there unless very comfortable with the plane. Having said that wheelers are fairly consistent and relatively easy. This aircraft with the big motor certainly looks a beast and I am sure must be lovely to fly. Good luck with the repairs and am sure it will fly again soon.
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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by Roger » Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:46 am

I was taught on the landing a taildragger, if you have a bounce like that, don't try fix it, give power, go around and try again. Is there a reason this did not apply on the video?
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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by jimdavis » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:15 am

Sideslip wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:38 am
The video posted above was from the maiden flight around 14/15 May at FAKR

The test pilot posted on the various watsapp groups a very candid account of what happened. The owner was in the aircraft with the test pilot at the time of the incident. The test pilot had about 3 hours on the aircraft so far.

The TP has many hours on S1 Pitts specials as well as heavier taildraggers.
Thanks, Mike. There is something strange happening. My first take on seeing that clip is that the pilot is way behind the aircraft. That landing just doesn't seem consistent with a really experienced, and current taildragger pilot.

I wonder whether the owner was feeling it through with the test pilot flying, and he hampered the TP's movements.

I have no doubt that it is indeed a handful, but that looked like a very amateur attempt at a landing. I simply don't understand what's going on.

Mike can you give us a bit more from the candid WhatsApp account?

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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by Whirly » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:25 am

jimdavis wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:15 am
Sideslip wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:38 am
The video posted above was from the maiden flight around 14/15 May at FAKR

The test pilot posted on the various watsapp groups a very candid account of what happened. The owner was in the aircraft with the test pilot at the time of the incident. The test pilot had about 3 hours on the aircraft so far.

The TP has many hours on S1 Pitts specials as well as heavier taildraggers.
Thanks, Mike. There is something strange happening. My first take on seeing that clip is that the pilot is way behind the aircraft. That landing just doesn't seem consistent with a really experienced, and current taildragger pilot.

I wonder whether the owner was feeling it through with the test pilot flying, and he hampered the TP's movements.

I have no doubt that it is indeed a handful, but that looked like a very amateur attempt at a landing. I simply don't understand what's going on.

Mike can you give us a bit more from the candid WhatsApp account?

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The video is of the maiden flight, if you look closely you will see there is only the pilot in the aircraft.

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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by E816 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:26 am

jimdavis wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:15 am
Sideslip wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:38 am
The video posted above was from the maiden flight around 14/15 May at FAKR

The test pilot posted on the various watsapp groups a very candid account of what happened. The owner was in the aircraft with the test pilot at the time of the incident. The test pilot had about 3 hours on the aircraft so far.

The TP has many hours on S1 Pitts specials as well as heavier taildraggers.
Thanks, Mike. There is something strange happening. My first take on seeing that clip is that the pilot is way behind the aircraft. That landing just doesn't seem consistent with a really experienced, and current taildragger pilot.

I wonder whether the owner was feeling it through with the test pilot flying, and he hampered the TP's movements.

I have no doubt that it is indeed a handful, but that looked like a very amateur attempt at a landing. I simply don't understand what's going on.

Mike can you give us a bit more from the candid WhatsApp account?

jim
The landing in the video clip was not the landing which caused yesterdays excursion. The landing in the video clip was the very first landing of this aircraft, and the first landing on type for this pilot. He was solo. I would probably not have chosen FAKR for a first landing (although it was built there so first take off had to happen), and would probably of gone for a wheeler first up ... but then again I'm not a test pilot and don't have big enough balls of steel to get into a type I've never flown and just go for it.

As I understand test pilot is very experienced and was a display pilot for some european country's (forget the country) national display team ...
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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by Sideslip » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:28 am

jimdavis wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:15 am
Sideslip wrote:
Wed Jun 12, 2019 9:38 am
The video posted above was from the maiden flight around 14/15 May at FAKR

The test pilot posted on the various watsapp groups a very candid account of what happened. The owner was in the aircraft with the test pilot at the time of the incident. The test pilot had about 3 hours on the aircraft so far.

The TP has many hours on S1 Pitts specials as well as heavier taildraggers.
Thanks, Mike. There is something strange happening. My first take on seeing that clip is that the pilot is way behind the aircraft. That landing just doesn't seem consistent with a really experienced, and current taildragger pilot.

I wonder whether the owner was feeling it through with the test pilot flying, and he hampered the TP's movements.

I have no doubt that it is indeed a handful, but that looked like a very amateur attempt at a landing. I simply don't understand what's going on.

Mike can you give us a bit more from the candid WhatsApp account?

jim
The video posted earlier in this thread was from the aircraft's maiden flight. I do not know who was flying the aircraft at the time. The landing caught on video was not pretty but at that stage I guess there were many unknown handling qualities of this high performance aircraft. The video shows only 1 onboard.

I saw video of one of the approaches shot at Bara yesterday and was surprised at how fast it came in. I would guess the lesson learnt from the first flight was to keep the speed up on approach.

The incident at Bara happened yesterday - a month after that video was taken.
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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by E816 » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:35 am

I've seen the pilot's account, and while the owner is suspicious of the tailwheel, the pilot is taking ownership of the events that unfolded yesterday ... I respect his attitude =D>
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Re: Radial Rocket down at Bara

Unread post by Volo » Wed Jun 12, 2019 10:52 am

I am wondering whether it would be better to wheel that beast on to the ground . Three pointing it seems to be a case of running out of authority everywhere. :?:
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