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Woman dies on BA flight from CT to Jhb

Unread post by Ugly Duckling » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:02 am

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Re: Woman dies on BA flight from CT to Jhb

Unread post by Mrb13676 » Thu Sep 19, 2019 8:48 pm

I'm sure something was lost in translation. Surely this poor person was alive when they boarded the plane.
So the police should not be trying to determine when she died, but rather why.

This sort of thing happens all the time - look at the number of flights and the number of people flying and statistics say it will happen - not quite sure why it made the news.
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Re: Woman dies on BA flight from CT to Jhb

Unread post by deanvdm » Thu Sep 19, 2019 9:36 pm

The time of death is relevant to a whole lot of legal processes such as finalising estates, insurance etc. here the inquest refers more to the legal aspects of death and less to the biological/pathological aspects of death.

When a person dies, the person needs to (ideally) be legally certified as having passed away - this needs to be done by medical professional (e.g. a paramedic of a certain level/doctor). Even if the person is clearly passed away the paperwork should still be completed so that there are no legal complications later on (e.g. with insurance). There are clinical tests and guidelines that the medical professional will use when declaring a person as being deceased (and since this medical professional is not a pathologist the medical professional only states the clinical parameters that were detected and the time - the causes are left to a pathologist).

In this context inquest here essentially refers to the legal process that is followed to (legally) determine the time of death and whether it was due to natural / unnatural causes. The time the person has been certified by a medical professional as having passed away is usually the "default" time of death but an inquest could come to a different conclusion for a whole lot of reasons. Legally a person can be declared deceased without a death certificate but it is fraught with all kinds of issues and delays. e.g. it can cause significant legal issues when there is no death declaration e.g. when a person disappears or his/her body cannot be traced/found or no remains can be found in an accident/fire/crash etc. The "biological" time of death (or the best estimate of the time of death) can be significantly different to the "legal" time as the legal process is driven by evidence and certainty and not probability and likelihood.

BTW Apart from the time of death, the place of death can also become a legal issue (e.g. jurisdiction), especially when it happens in the air between countries or over international water.
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Re: Woman dies on BA flight from CT to Jhb

Unread post by dr727 » Fri Sep 20, 2019 9:30 am

BTW Apart from the time of death, the place of death can also become a legal issue (e.g. jurisdiction), especially when it happens in the air between countries or over international water

With reference to tbe above (jurisdiction over international waters and in respect of aircraft engaged in international flights even whilst on the ground) wouldn't this be determined by the nationality of the carrier?
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Re: Woman dies on BA flight from CT to Jhb

Unread post by johannieuw » Sat Sep 21, 2019 6:08 pm

Death on a commercial flight is awkward. In 2013 on flight SQ478 from SIN to JNB about 6 hours in the flight, the cabin crew chief woke up my wife to request her assistance to a pax on the flight. Although her title on the manifest was Dr. she is not a medical doctor and with sad gestures he apologised for the interruption.
After landing at ORTIA and during disembarking, we walked passed an elderly Indian lady sitting sadly next to a blanket covered body of her husband who died on the flight.
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Re: Woman dies on BA flight from CT to Jhb

Unread post by bromster » Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:59 pm

She was old. In her 80s I think. Cabin crew was advised that she was unconscious about 10 minutes prior to landing. Resuscitation and defib were unsuccessful.

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Re: Woman dies on BA flight from CT to Jhb

Unread post by farmpilot » Wed Sep 25, 2019 8:37 am

bromster wrote:
Sun Sep 22, 2019 9:59 pm
She was old. In her 80s I think. Cabin crew was advised that she was unconscious about 10 minutes prior to landing. Resuscitation and defib were unsuccessful.

Shame 😞
Do they even have defib on internal flights?
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Re: Woman dies on BA flight from CT to Jhb

Unread post by Deanw » Wed Sep 25, 2019 9:59 am

Believe BA had another passenger pass away on a flight the week earlier as well. :(
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