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Unread post by Cyberwolf »

Hi All,

If one's CPL(A) competency, along with the IR have lapsed by a period of less than one year, what exactly is the renewal process?
Additonally, the lapse has occured prior to first revalidation (i.e. last check was the initial CPL ME/IR skills test).

I understand from Part 61.11 that a revalidation of the Instrument Rating also revalidates the Maintenance of Competency for the CPL, however, I am unsure that only a revalidation of the IR (after a period of training at an ATO) will be satisfactory for the re-issuance of CPL Competency after said competency has lapsed (Part 61.05).

Any experience or advice in this regard is greatly appreciated.
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Unread post by Alphavane »

Hi CW,

From past experience with candidates who have had the same issue.

Revalidation of your CPL first (on aircraft), thereafter,

Revalidation of your IR on a suitable qualified sim.

Can be done on the same day. As an active DFE, I would not recommend as it makes a very long day.

Professionalism would suggest you get some preparation / training before. The regulations also require it.

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